Friday, September 7, 2012

Lets question unfair immigration over the years?

Lets question unfair immigration over the years?
My great grand parents immigrated from scandanvia, my great grand mother from norway, and my great grand father from sweden...they saved money for a ocean liner trip, got off at ellis island..they were given a check up, and their papers and sent on their way...to all of you people that hate "illegal immigrants"..they are immigrating the same way your decedents did..except for one thing now the rules have become so difficult that it alot of cases it is impossible for someone to legally immigrate to this country..sure if you have 10,000 america dollars and know the right person you can persuade someone to give you a visa.. but in most cases they put you on a list...lol 10-20-30 years to wait..OUR DESCENDANTS ONLY NEEDED MONEY TO TRAVEL AND A DREAM....what makes you think that our descendants were better or more worthy than the people today..WHEN THE IRISH CAME THEY WERE DISCRIMINATED AGAINST..when the jews came , when the Italians came..i can go on and on...they were given all the dirty jobs, like building the railroad and bridges..I look out my window with the knowledge that 3 immigrants are buried in the concrete of the bridge I can see..three worthless irish immigrants that know one cared about.."just keep pouring the concrete"....today it is the mexicans and others who we look at as worthless...but they need so much more than travel money and a dream...Thank god my family immigrated when it did..or i would be looking over MY SHOULDER waiting to be deported, because a dream is no longer enough.. Thats all youhave to say..the europeans learned english..lol, my husband came from el salvadore (he is legal)..when he was 13..he mastered english by the time he was 15 and just recieved his American P.H.D in Chemistry..do not lump people into categories..it just shows how black ones heart can get Mr. true pimp...know one ever said we didnt allow legal immigrants..we do..but may I ask all of the people reading this, how did your family arrive in america..Did they in fact go through ellis island as most did...it was easy for them..the very people that sit in congress today are 4th and 5th generation americans that had relatives just walk through ellis island..wow, it was okay for their families, but for others it is not..you talk about welfare and foodstamps..did you ever stop to think that if people were given the chance to make their american dream come true that they would...oh no, your right mexicans love cleaning vegetables at fruit stand for less than minimum wage, and would never consider getting a better job so they could afford a house and a car...you have got to be kidding me.. krollohare2..well how about this..i live down the block from a public housing project, you have to be a citizen to live in one. I have never seen a bunch of lazier american citizens in all my life..draining the system dry, taking public housing, welfare, food stamps, wic..and the like...lol, the mexicans that get up in the morning to wash toilets have more respect from me than these people..If the system is being drained dry it is not from immigrants it is FROM LAZY AMERICANS..the kind that when their rent goes up they just make another baby to get more welfare to pay the difference.. god help this country if we allow this to continue, but punish those who come and work like dogs at any job they can find.. To. I am gonna start a riot.... you seem to only see things you want t see....I never said all americans do is watch the mailbox..many are very hardworking..myself included..i work all day and go to college at night...that is not the point..the point is that people do not like todaysimmigrants because they are spanish speaking....but trust me..my hubby speaks english better than most americans..he has to he grades their college chemistry papers..and yes I have a problem with the segment of the american population that is lazy...see, my immigrant husband is paying taxes..and his taxes are paying for the housing of lazy americans..If my husband could come to this country at 13 not speaking a word of english, and managed to get his P.H.D in chemistry..then why do any born americans whine, whimper and expect hand outs..you are barking up the wrong tree if you think it is my husband that is the enemy of the american economy..it is not..
Immigration - 9 Answers
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At least the Europeans learned english
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They came to become americans, not to reconquer territory to hand it off to Mexico. By the way, the US allows more legal immigrants then the rest of the world. The number of persons naturalized in the United States increased 58% from 660,477 in 2007 to an all-time record of 1,046,539 in 2008. America admitted more legal immigrants from 1991 to 2000 (between 10-11 million) than in any previous decade. And it isn't that difficult if you have needed skills. There are plenty of jobs that offer H-1 Visas to immigrants. However, it is correctly becoming more difficult for immigrants with criminal records to enter, and those with no job skills. I stand strongly behind that. Since we are a popular destination, we have the right to chose the best and brightest, not solve the problems of countries like Mexico by taking on the poor people they can't provide for. EDIT: Well, thats our system, and it's in place for a reason. You can't possibly compare 120 years ago to today. There was a strong need for unskilled workers back then as the country was being built up. In 1900, we had the same amount of territory we have today, with only 76 million people. Today we have over 300 million. Now, we need skilled workers such as engineers, computer technicians and health care workers. The times have changed, and the needs have changed, though we are STILL allowing more legal immigration then any other time in history. If we allow unlimited 3rd world immigration at this point of our history with the current economy, we will surely collapse and become a 3rd world economy ourselves. There are places with more liberal immigration policies, like Canada or the UK. People could always choose to go there. So, you need to get your facts straight.
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100 years ago and then some, America had less than a third of its current population and there were more opportunities available. When your great grandparents came here it was legal to arrive and step off the boat, sign a log book and move on. Not everybody who came here did the dirty jobs. A lot did because they came here for a reason. If your great grandparents came here from Scandinavia maybe they did so because in reality, living there was miserable enough to get them to take a gamble and come here. People came to the U.S. for opportunity. They still do. Only now, there are fewer jobs and many people competing with them. That's all. Resources are stretched thin. That's why the rules are more difficult.
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i agree.
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I will have to agree with you to a point. When people came here there was opportunity for a better. We just started the age of invention and industrial revolution. Factories where going up everywhere to produce the goods that were being invented. When you have a large need for workers of all trades you have a DEMAND. The population of this country was small compared to other countries in the world and the American Dream was what most people wanted. As far as people being discriminated against you are so wrong. My father when he was a child remembers walking the streets in Phila 1920's and signs would be hung on the sides of buildings saying. "HIRING -- Irish need not apply or Germans need not apply or Italians need not apply or Catholics need not apply. This is how certain employers hired who they wanted to hire. The Irish lived in their communities and the Italians lived in their communities, and the Germans lived in their communities also. They were very segregated. But they all had one thing in common they all were learning or already speaking english. They did not snub their noses at what America stands for and they pulled their own weight. As far as the Irish who were poured into the bridge embankments well that was part of the job. I worked in a steel mill and if someone fell into the ladle of molten steel, first there was nothing left of him and second we didn't stop production for him. That was in the 1970's. Yes I am sure his family grieved but it was an accident. There was NO OSHA or MSHA. They weren't formed till the 1970's. It was a possible hazard of the job, they knew it when they got hired. Those people who fell into the concrete was an accident also. Someone grieved but do you really think all work should have stopped and torn apart which might take weeks, if not months because of an accident. We want people to immigrate to the U.S.A. All we want is it to be fair and not a FREE-FOR-ALL like it currently is. Stop demanding things, stop telling the U.S. Citizens what you want or what we owe you. Learn English and speak it. Show some respect toward the U.S.A. and what this country went thought to become the country it is. No it is not prefect but it is only 233 years old. Now we have a population who comes here demanding rights, takes large sums of taxpayers money 330 BILLION DOLLARS a year and give nothing back. They feel they are owed this. You tell me WHY? No it is not right for those Lazy Americans to suck off the system either. I have always pulled my on weight. Most Americans pull their own weight. But you are comparing apples and oranges. I guess the thumbs down was from someone who lived in the 1920's, lived in Phila, PA and knows better. Or just some " A " Hole in general.
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Illegal is still illegal. Something worth having is worth working for and waiting for the legal route. Why dont you come live in the present. Every country in the world has immigration laws. We need to enforce them and the illegal problem would decrease.
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"OUR DESCENDANTS ONLY NEEDED MONEY TO TRAVEL AND A DREAM....what makes you think that our descendants were better or more worthy than the people today"? If you haven't had any children yet, you don't have any DESCENDANTS. If you have children, then they wouldn't need to immigrate here if you had them here. But you do have ANCESTORS. So let me rephrase your question accordingly "OUR [ANCESTORS] ONLY NEEDED MONEY TO TRAVEL AND A DREAM....what makes you think that our descendants were better or more worthy than the people today"? Our ancestors were White. They came to the U.S. and became productive members of society, and helped the U.S. grow from the band of colonies that just got independence from Great Britain to the awesome country it is today. Today's illegal immigrants are mostly hispanic. These people come to this country, steal jobs from hard-working Amreicans, leech money and government services without paying taxes, create crime. Instead of making the United States a better place to live, they do the exact opposite, while sending money back to their home country. This is why the U.S. needs to keep them out. Also, they are not working jobs that no American would want to do. Who do you think collected garbage, mowed lawns, etc. (without creating crime and other problems) before mexicans came here?
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So what does that have to do with today's illegal immigration ?And why does every argument for illegals always include LAZY AMERICANS does this include yourself and from your post you are in effect saying, that all of America does nothing but watch the mail box, so do you include yourself in this group, you did say all Americans so do you watch the mail box as well? the block from a public housing project, you have to be a citizen not true Obama's aunt is not a citizen and she lives in a public housing project and gets section 8,welfare,food stamps and you say you have to be a citizen to get all of this is laughable.You are just cherry picking the laws and making excuses and want the laws to not be the same for everybody.
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I'm just glad my ancestors never left Norway for America. Otherwise I'd be an American now, eating lutefisk and pretending I was Norwegian, like the Americans do.